So what do you make of Ukraine's efforts to reinsure investors?

那么，您如何看待乌克兰为投资者提供再保险的努力？

KAREN CLARK: Well, you know, they were already reinsuring hurricane risk in the US, and they thought they knew it very well because they had been making a lot of money.

凯伦·克拉克：嗯，你知道，他们已经在为美国的飓风风险提供再保险，他们认为自己非常了解这一点，因为他们已经赚了很多钱。