Let me pause here to say Noma finally announced that it would stop using free stagiaires last October.

让我在这里暂停一下， Noma 终于在去年 10 月宣布将停止使用免费的 stagiaires。

I think my mum did a stagiaires at Noma at one point (Lilah laughs), I mean it's, that, it's that mundane.

我想我妈妈有一次在 Noma 做了一个 stagiaires（Lilah 笑），我的意思是， 那个，就是那个平凡。

So, you know, I did different things in different kitchens because each chef needed a stagiaire in a different way. It was a normal thing, and it still is today.

所以，你知道，我在不同的厨房做不同的事情，因为每个厨师需要一名助手做事情的方式都不。这是件很正常的事情，直到今天也是如此。

THOMAS KELLER: A stage. Yeah. I was a stagiaire, and I was doing a stage, which is—you know, you go into somebody's—it's almost like it's an apprenticeship if you will.

一个阶段。是的。我是一名助手（法语），我在做一名助手该做的工作，你知道，你进入一个人的——如果你愿意这样理解的话，这差不多就像是做一名学徒。

But the entire way of talking about food, the vocabulary, the way that the kitchen is set up, words like chef de cuisine or stagiaire or sous chef, the brigade system.

但是谈论食物的整个方式，词汇，厨房的设置方式，诸如主厨或 stagiaire 或副主厨之类的词，旅系统。