It's like you're taking the machine and using it to fight itself.

就像你拿着机器，用它来对抗自己。

This style of learning is similar to taking apart a machine and rebuilding it to find out how it works.

这种学习方式类似于拆开一台机器，然后重新组装，以找出它是如何工作的。

" But Fenner told me definitely that he was taking this machine" .

“但是 Fenner 明确地告诉我他要拿走这台机器”。